How Gratitude Leads From Darkness to Light

How Gratitude Leads From Darkness to Light. With Dr. Rani Thanacoody & Samia Bano

If you or someone you care about is stuck in a really dark place, how do you even begin to come out of that darkness?

Listen now to this interview with Dr. Rani Thanacoody, #ClinicalHypnotherapist, #LifeCoach, #RelationshipCoach, #Astrologer & #Speaker.

Dr. Rani shares personal experiences as well as her professional insights on how you can use the #powerofgratitude to move from #darknesstolight.

Note: Listen all the way to the end to learn concrete steps on how to adopt a #GratitudeAttitude as a lifestyle and have it serve as a foundation for sustained #HappinessAndFulfillment.

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SAMIA: Hello, Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Sat Sri Akal, Aloha, Holah, Ciao, Bonjour, Buna, Privet and Mabuhay! I hope I said that right... That's my new greeting from the Philippines. And, well, I'm just so excited today. I'm so happy everyone is joining us because we have an amazing guest with us today, an amazing returning guest, and that's Dr. Rani. Welcome, Dr. Rani…

DR. RANI: Hi, everybody, and thank you for inviting me again to your podcast and channel. I am really, really happy and grateful and excited to be with you and your audience, Samia. Thank you.

SAMIA: Yes. You know, Dr. Rani and I had such a fabulous time in our last interview. And actually, just as we were ending our conversation last time, which was all about, you know, how you have the power to heal yourself with your thoughts and your, you know… and just right towards the end, Dr. Rani, you dropped some amazing pearls of wisdom, and we didn't have time to get into them. And actually, one of the last things that you shared with our audience last time was… you were talking about the power of gratitude as something that everyone can do as an action step to help themselves. And this is, in fact, you know, my gosh... I think a lot of people… I've heard a lot of people sort of talk about, oh, be grateful, be grateful, power of gratitude... But I think this is actually something that's worth really delving more, more deeply into. I think a lot of people just brush off and don't realize actually just how amazingly powerful gratitude is in the context of helping ourselves heal.

DR. RANI: Yes, that's correct, Samia. It is something that we all take for granted, you know. And also, we are so much into the stress… living in a state of stress, that we don't take the time to really appreciate what we have, the small things that we have. We always want more... It is okay to want more. But we are so distracted by everything around us, you know, that we forget that appreciating the little things, it is such a... it is so powerful because gratitude is such a transformative emotion. And when we are in that state of gratitude, we are able also... When we are in that state of appreciating everything, we are able also to enhance our overall well-being and our quality of life... Because just to give you an example, if you are grateful for the little things, then you are in a good mood. You are in a good mood, you feel good. And when you feel good, you have more energy, you know, in the body. It is... It is the mind, it is the feelings as well. So we start to get excited... We feel happy. And then when we feel happy, then the body start to do more things. We have more energy. And then not only we do more things, but then we attract greater things in our life when we are in that state. So just being grateful for the small things, it is so powerful. Like being grateful for being here with you today, with your audience, it's such an opportunity, you know... to be here…

SAMIA: Yes.

DR. RANI: Yeah. And just saying thank you…

SAMIA: ..yeah.

DR. RANI: ..is very powerful. Yeah. So appreciating the people around us, the experiences, the things that enriches our lives. So it... because gratitude is the highest, I would say… it is the highest energy vibration because it's the highest... And the more grateful we are, the more we see ourselves attracting more abundance and we are better able to cope in challenging situations as well, you know.

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: ..because we realize that every situation, it's an opportunity for us to grow, for us to learn something. Even our most challenging teachers in our lives can be our father, our friends, everybody is a great teacher for us. Whether they challenge us or not, we are getting to know ourselves better.

SAMIA: Yeah... Okay. You just made me think of... So... You know, I actually recently had an experience where I was reminded of a time when I felt really depressed. And I remember one of the things about when I felt... and it was like one of those times when I wasn't just depressed, I was also very anxious and feeling unsafe and... You know, and one of the things I remember… and this is a memory that got triggered because it's one thing to remember things like, yes, I went through that. But every so often, something will happen and you remember the actual feeling of when you were in that time. And so this is what happened with me recently, was I actually remembered the feeling of when I had experienced that depression and anxiety and stuff. And I remember feeling so... like, somebody asked me… but what about God? Because as people of faith... And I was like, God has abandoned me... I mean, that was my response. And the feeling that came with that was just such a deep sense of there's nothing good in my life. I'm in such deep loneliness. And in that moment, I couldn't think of anything to be grateful for. I was like… this is like the worst... I couldn't think of a single thing to be grateful for in that moment. It was just so dark in that mindset and in that feeling. I'm like, oh, my gosh, I totally forgot. I mean, it's been so long since I felt that way, and was just such an eye-opening to get triggered back into that feeling. Oh, my God... Because it's like when you are actually in that darkness, sometimes it's so difficult to be like, no, even God has abandoned me. Oh, my God. To feel like that... And so how do you... I can't. And then I was, like, trying to remember, how did I come out of that? How did I come out of that... And I mean, I know in the long term, I mean it took time and all of that, but I'm wondering, Dr. Rani, if you can share some insights on… if someone's in a really dark place, how do you even begin to come out of that?

DR. RANI: Yes, I think that's a great question because I was in that dark place like you too. At a time when I left my job, and with the ongoing bullying in the job, I had to leave. And it was really a dark place because I was feeling lost. I was by myself in a foreign country and I was starting to reflect on things. And I was... I like to reflect a lot, I must say. When things happen, I say, "What is it that I do?" So I started to reflect a lot. And I knew this was a very difficult, challenging situation. But for me, what helped me to get out was, I was every day... I pray, I thank God. I thank God for everything. I do my prayers. But there is one thing that I've learned is to say some affirmations that helped me a lot in those dark moments. And I was telling myself… I was thanking God every day for everything. And I was also saying those powerful affirmations. Oh, my God. I had a list of maybe 20 affirmations. I am powerful. I am strong. I have extraordinary coping abilities. It's like I was just saying this to myself a lot of times per day and keep reminding myself that what is happening to me in that dark moment, that is not the end... that's what I keep telling myself. There must be a reason why this happened, but there must be something better around the corner. I don't know. I have always been like that. Even in those dark moments, I say, no, okay, this is happening. It's hard, it's challenging, but there is something else, something better... So I give myself, I encourage myself. I think the best way is to keep encouraging yourself. Because in those dark moments, very often there is nobody to encourage you. Even if there are, you won't believe it, but the only person that can encourage yourself is you. Because you live with yourself 24/7. You are your own enemy or you can be your own best friend by how you talk to yourself.

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: So I think to get out of this is we really have to think of how we talk to ourselves… what we say on a daily basis to ourself. Are we really encouraging ourselves or are we putting ourselves down? The situations will come, the challenges will come. Like yesterday, I can share with you something happened in the job and I had no control. It's other people getting involved in it. And it took me by surprise because I thought I was in control of what I was doing. So when that took me by surprise, I was like, okay, what is going on? And the thought came… no, I think I should leave the job now. The thought came... And then I say, no. What is it I am learning here? Maybe the person is trying to help me here… helping in doing things better. I tell you, I didn't sleep well yesterday night. And it happens to all of us. We are humans. We are not perfect. We are flawed individuals having flawed relationships. And then I came back and I kept telling myself no, there must be something good in what is happening and I will find out. But today I felt more peaceful about it because I kept talking again to myself, telling myself …this is not me, it's not my fault what is happening. But it's okay, things happen… Things happen in life, you know…

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: It is challenging situations... And I think it's very important Samia, to encourage ourselves whatever situations because challenges we come, we are on that journey. We have come here to learn our lessons. It is our journey to learn the lesson because otherwise they will keep repeating.

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: So I think, we have only this life Samia… we better learn as much as we can from the challenges and that would help us also to learn about ourselves. That's what we are here on that life journey. And make the best of it. Because imagine if you start to think in a way that, oh, everything is going to go dark and dark. It is like a looping thought…

SAMIA: Yes, yes…

`DR. RANI: ...so the looping thought is the, for example… I can't do this, I can't pass the exam... So now the feeling will be like, I am starting to have fear. I am starting to feel anxious. And when that feeling of anxiety come, then I can't even get up that day to go to the exam because I am in a state of panic. And when I am in a state of panic, I can't do anything. It's like then the negative thought come again. It is a vicious cycle…

SAMIA: Yes, yes... And yeah… as you were sharing Dr. Rani, I was remembering also that… it's not like you fall into a deep depression in a single day. I mean, there are sometimes, there are traumatic events that happen that can throw you into a depressed state or anxious state. But I think in a lot of cases, like certainly, I think in my case with the memory that got triggered, it wasn't like a one-day, one-moment traumatic event that threw me into that state. It was that I felt things getting worse and worse over time. And a big part of that, you're absolutely right, is that I was having all of these negative thoughts and beliefs and emotions and I couldn't lift myself out of it. And so I kept spiraling down, spiraling down, spiraling down. It's so important if we have some sense of, okay, this is how I can counteract my negative thoughts and emotions, and you begin to help yourself in those ways before you go too far down… because the further down in the darkness you go, the harder it can feel to raise yourself up. That is really helpful. And for sure, even recently for me, I had… like, again, these are most of the time now I'm so happy... I'm such a high vibration that sometimes when things still happen and I find myself struggling with some kind of emotion, it's a good reminder…

DR. RANI: Yes.

SAMIA: ...it's a good reminder. And definitely, I think what you were saying about thinking about that, oh, no, this is something to teach me… that I do find that very helpful, I must say, because, in fact, this was happening just a few days ago with me also, Dr. Rani, that I fell into a conflict with somebody. And I didn't expect to start feeling so angry because, like I said, it's been a while since I felt this angry. And it took me, like, two days... two days of… And I could see in myself that I was having these thoughts that were making me more angry and preventing me from feeling calm. But I was like, no, I don't want to let go of these thoughts, because I'm right…

DR. RANI: But you know, we are human.

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: And I think the thing with that is that we will… how much healing we will do… healing is a lifelong process. So on that journey, in this lifetime, we will get triggered, because that's how we are polishing that...  we are ike that diamond that has been covered when things, challenges… that's when the diamond is getting polished.

SAMIA: Yes. It's like another spec off, another side of it getting more nice and polished.

It's like until you hit these points of challenge, you're like, oh, I'm doing so great. I'm all polished up. I must be doing awesome. But then you like… no, no… you know what? There's room for growth. There's room for becoming even more awesome and amazing.

DR. RANI: Absolutely. I think it's important to in those challenging moments where I was getting angry as well yesterday, I tell you, towards myself. I say, I don't know. Suddenly I started feeling anger, feel emotion of anger coming up.

I said, Where is that coming up? Wow. I think it's about acknowledging those emotions, which you did as well. And I did acknowledge, okay, we are getting angry.

Where is that coming from? It's about asking ourselves questions and being curious… not attacking ourselves, but say, wow, where is that anger coming from? It's like, where is it in my body? And really taking the time to accept ourself in that moment. I think that's very important. And not hitting ourselves with stones and blaming ourselves. You know, it's so easy to start putting ourselves down in those difficult moments. But we have to remember that also when things happen, we are humans. We make mistakes, but also we shouldn't take things personally. And I kept telling myself that yesterday… it's nothing personal. It's nothing to do with you. And that helped me to realize, okay, there is something happening. It's not only me. There are other situation outside of my control.

SAMIA: Yes.

DR. RANI: You know, so when we acknowledge that, then we don't get into the judgment. We don't get into the blame for ourself or others. We just accept that this is part of life, and this is part of us growing and evolving.

SAMIA: Yes... you know, it's interesting, Dr. Rani, like, when I started feeling really angry, one of the things that I realized that I was doing in that moment was… that I was actually resisting… I was trying to resist taking on blame. Because... So in the interaction that I had, I felt like the person, other person was blaming me and judging me. And I didn't want to take on the blame and judgment... I didn't want to take that on. And I think part of my defense mechanism was the anger… that I was like, no, this is not my fault. I'm not wrong here. I'm not going to take on this blame. And the defense mechanism that popped up was anger. And then I was like, no, it's your fault, you are wrong…

DR. RANI: Yes…

SAMIA: So you know, it's like I did one good thing, sort of, by being like, okay, I'm not going to blame myself. But at the same time, the way that I did it was by deciding to blame the other person, which made me angry. So…

DR. RANI: Yes. Yes. Yes. I can understand.

SAMIA: …like, don't blame yourself or hopefully the other person either, because either way, you're not going to reach a calm, happy, grateful place.

DR. RANI: No.

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: And you know what helped me a lot, depending on different situations where I was finding myself, like the one, I lost my job… I left the job... I deliberately left the job because it was like a... there won’t be any... It would be difficult to stay in that kind of environment. But the thing that helped me, I think different people can use different techniques… for me at that hard time I remember I was helping a girl.

I tell you, my issue was really big. But when I started doing some voluntary work, going to do a bit of meditation in the center, oh, my God, it's like, you know, I fell lighter and those looping thoughts stopped.

SAMIA: Yes.

DR. RANI: It's like focusing on our attention on something, helping somebody who is even in a bigger trouble than us because our trouble is not that big at the end, our challenge. And that helped me so much in that difficult time…

SAMIA: Yes.

DR. RANI: ..to do so.

SAMIA: ..somehow. Yeah.

DR. RANI: …Altruistic work.

SAMIA: Yes, yes. To break the pattern somehow of the negative looping thoughts and whatever the emotions are, to somehow put a break into it, feel something different, experience something different, think something different.

Yeah, yeah... I think in my case, yeah... What did I do? Definitely, I also got a break because I had to start doing work. And you know, with my work, I'm a Happiness Expert.

DR. RANI: Yes.

SAMIA: So I'm doing a lot of work in terms of helping other people manage their emotions and things like that. And definitely, so for me, also, that helped me sort of begin to transition out and bring more awareness to my own emotions also. And then yeah, for sure… so coming back to gratitude, I remember, okay, so this was one of the things I started to think about was… to be grateful for the relationship with this person because… and then I realized, oh, I have this, this and this thing to be grateful for in the context of our relationship. And also made me realize that, like, I've had conflicts with other people of course, and found it much easier to maintain perspective in those conflicts, in those relationships, and maintain my peaceful, calm perspectives. And I realized, oh, it also has to do with the kind of relationship that you have with the particular person. Like, for example… my mom won't mind if I use her as an example… but you know with my mom, I have a very interesting relationship. She's the person I probably love the most in the world, and she's also the person I probably have the most conflict with when it does happen. But it's really interesting because I have the sense of knowing that I love her and she loves me. And I've never doubted that, never. And so because I know that we have this unconditional love for each other, somehow that makes it so much easier to get through any conflict… any feelings that come up, they're not bigger than the love, you know. And so, you know, with this other person, it's like, oh, my relationship is not as deep. It's like I don't have that knowing of, oh, that person loves me so unconditionally, and I love them so unconditionally. However, that is something I could strive for, at least from my end. Because for me, at a philosophical level, I'm trying to love everybody unconditionally through recognizing that we're all one and we are all part of this oneness. And so really, to strive to love everyone, at least, you know, in this... Because there are different kinds of loving, there are different kinds of love… but at least at this level of understanding, we can strive to love each other unconditionally. So that definitely began to… to realize, oh, it's just a different relationship that I have, and there's room for growth and there's room for me to love this other person more deeply and more unconditionally. So that calmed me down.

DR. RANI: I think that's beautiful, yes. I think that's beautiful to bring love, to remember the love that exists between you and that person. And that ...I think it's just accepting ourself and other people and being kind to each… ourself first, and being compassionate to others, and knowing that we are all here to make mistakes. We are not perfect. And it's through these mistakes that we are going to learn. Because I always thought before, when I was little, that I had to be perfect. But now I realize it's okay if my colleague makes mistakes. And I am okay to make mistakes too.

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: I used to be very hard on myself. Very hard. But now I am okay. If my colleague made mistake, I say it's okay... It happens. You are human. So I'm not going to keep blaming you because I make mistakes too.

So I think it's very important to be kind to ourselves, to accept ourselves, that we are here to learn and to grow.

SAMIA: Yes.

DR. RANI: And I think another good way I would say, Samia, that I found that helps is to write down… if we are in a state of anger… I use that in my coaching… and we write down all these emotions. We let it out on paper because once you let it out on paper, it's a relief. It's gone out of the head. We won't think of it.

SAMIA: Yeah.

DR. RANI: And we see it and then really look at it. Take the time to look at it from the other person perspective as well.

SAMIA: Yes.

DR. RANI: And then forgive ourself and forgive the person.

SAMIA: Yes. Yes... I remember, oh… this was one of the first times that I experienced this… that I remember very vividly… I was at a conference where it was meant to be a healing space, and we were learning about helping ourselves heal. And our mentor, he had us doing this exercise for releasing negative emotions. And it did come down to basically practicing forgiveness for ourselves and the other person. But one of the very, very important steps of it was to imagine, you know… try to imagine from the other person's perspective what was going on... So to imagine yourself as the other person and being like, okay, what could have been happening for me and going on for me that I acted in this way? You know, it's actually quite challenging because I remember… I probably, I don't know if this is the wisest thing to do because I took on the hardest… I was like, who do I have the biggest problem with, that I have the biggest struggles with in terms of forgiveness and let me practice this on them. And I was like, now if I'm working with someone, I'd be like, okay, if the first time you're doing this, maybe start with a smaller issue or a smaller person that you have conflict with…

But me, I dived in and I was like, okay, the person who sexually abused me as a child… Because I was just trying to imagine what was going on from that person's perspective. It was, like, really hard. But it was also an extremely transformative process and experience because… like, if you do it honestly, you know, it's like, you're not... because otherwise it's so easy to just be like, oh, that person's just crazy. They're just evil. They're just bad. But then that keeps you stuck in your judgments and you can't do the forgiveness thing that you need to do for your own peace of heart and mind, you know, and so... Yeah... To imagine things from the other person's perspective, that is very powerfully transformative. And you know, I must say that going through that exercise also made me feel really grateful because whatever I imagined, whatever I tried to imagine must have been going through that other person's mind and psyche and emotions…. it was just so terrible that I was like, oh, thank God I've not experienced anything like that in my life. Thank God.

And I was truly grateful that I was… like, I'd much rather be who I am and where I am and experience being oppressed rather than committing that kind of abuse on somebody else. Because everything that I could imagine that would lead me to do that was just so horrendous. In a very unexpected way itended up making me feel really grateful for my own experiences and where I was.

DR. RANI: Wow. Yeah, that's beautiful. And another something that I have done as well, somebody told me, is when you are facing a difficult challenge, a challenge or something is triggering you, just think of the person that you value most and imagine what would that person do? Let's say, okay, you value… maybe for you, the most influential person in your life, maybe your uncle. And in that moment, you tell yourself, but what would my uncle do, you know, in that situation? What would he do? How would he handle that situation? Because then it help you to get out from the anxiety, the stress, and just step out of who you are for a moment…

SAMIA: ...yes.

DR. RANI: …to see clearly what is going here.

SAMIA: Yeah... Now you just made me think about when people say, what would Jesus do?

DR. RANI: Yes. I heard people, say that. Yes, what would Jesus do in that situation?

SAMIA: Yeah. Yeah. And it's actually a really excellent ...because, I mean, to think about somebody that you love and admire… definitely like Jesus is someone that I really love and admire as well. And so to think about what would they... I'm like, I'm sure... Like, there were, there are stories of times when Jesus showed some anger. I remember there's at least one or two stories I can remember… But he also… I wonder… it seemed like he wasn't ever out of control, though… like when he turned over the table of the money lenders or whatever, he displayed some behavior that you could interpret as angry, but I don't think he was... But he did it as, like a conscious action. He was doing it as a protest to highlight an injustice, you know.. So I feel like he was still very much internally, probably in control of his thoughts and emotions… That made me think about just the difference between also... Like, anger, most of the time, actually, is a pretty surface-level emotion. And if you can recognize what is deeper down and connect with that deeper down feeling and motivation, then that also helps you deal with the anger. And even if you're expressing it, to express it in a way that is healthy rather than just out of control and destructive. Yeah...

DR. RANI: But being grateful is such a transformative emotion, you know.

SAMIA: Yes.

DR. RANI: It has the power to change our lives. And I know of a lady… I was on a course, and she was saying how her client came to her… a businessman, very powerful, had his own company of 15-20,000 people, and his company was going down. And when he came to that lady, she told him, start to do some gratitude every day. And Samia, as he… she told him to do that for 30 days. And when he did it for 30 days, the way he thought started changing. He started to get the idea. And his business turned around and became very successful.

SAMIA: Yeah. Yeah, yeah... Gratitude is… however, you can get to that point of gratitude, it is really amazing. I mean... I… it really is… You know, we have a prayer in the Muslim tradition that is, you know, one of those prayers that you recite every single day, many times a day, if you're a practicing Muslim. And it begins with this phrase where you say, “and all praise and thanks is to God”. And I learned this as a little kid.

And you know, when you just memorize these things as a little kid, you don't always understand or think about what you're saying and what it means.

DR. RANI: Yes.

SAMIA: It was a few years ago when I started doing my happiness work, and actually when I was studying about the power of gratitude in positive psychology research, that's when it clicked for me that, oh my gosh... This is why in our tradition, we are taught to start our prayers with these expressions of gratitude. Because gratitude is that emotion, that feeling, and that state that begins to open up the access that you need to abundance flowing in,  the help and support that you need, for it to begin to flow in and for you to receive it. Because I can't remember if we talked about this in our last episode, but it's like one thing for us to ask for help and be like, yes, I want help. But it's another thing to actually receive it. Because oftentimes, even on the one hand, I'd be like, yes, I want help, please help me. But then when somebody actually tried to help me, I would cage myself and close off because I got scared or whatever, and so I couldn't receive the help, you know. But when you are in the state of gratitude, then you're actually able to receive the help also. So it's like so, so key.

DR. RANI: Yes. And it's a great point you made here because you say when you are in a state of gratitude, you are able to receive… because gratitude is about... it is the bridge to love. Yes. Love is the highest frequency... So when we are grateful… you are grateful… it brings that feeling of love because of receiving love and of giving love. Yes, it is the highest frequency. Gratitude, it's the same as love. It's the bridge to love.

SAMIA: Yes. Yes. Because it's like by definition, when you are experiencing gratitude or... Like, you know, you're feeling like again, this is definitely something we talked about last time... It's not just about thinking the thoughts or the words at a mental level. It's also about feeling the feelings, right. And so when you're really feeling gratitude, you're like, I have this, I have that, and this is amazing. And that's amazing. So you're actually recognizing having received and having present in your life so many things that are amazing and wonderful and beautiful. And the reception and the presence of these things…. these are in fact expressions of love. These are manifestations of love... You have these amazing things in your life because you are being loved.

DR. RANI: Yeah.

SAMIA: You know.

DR. RANI: …Such a powerful emotion. Because when we are in a state of gratitude, while we are open to receiving and to giving, we live in the now you know. When you are grateful for…

SAMIA: ..you know…

DR. RANI: …what you have now…

SAMIA: Yeah…

DR. RANI: …you live in the present moment. And then you don't worry about the future. You don't get sad about the past. But you are just in the now. A very beautiful feeling of gratitude is when we see a rainbow, you know. We say, wow… we are so happy we see the rainbow, we enjoy that moment. Yes. Or when we see bird in nature or whatever we see in nature, we just, wow... We just are amazed at… the beauty of nature can make us bring more gratitude to us…

SAMIA: Yes. Ah, Dr. Rani, this connection between love and gratitude… We'll probably have to do another episode to dig deeper into it, because this is such a deep insight that you highlighted… the connection between love and gratitude. Amen. And I know you have to get going because you have another appointment, so maybe we will wrap up right now. Do you have any last thoughts to share with our audience for today?

DR. RANI: Yes. What I would like to tell everybody… it's a very beautiful quote that I found by Rhonda Brine. She wrote the book, I think... The Power or The Secret. One of those books. And she talked about gratitude. So I want to share that to everybody. She says, "Be grateful for everything you have received in your life. Be grateful for everything you are receiving in your life. And be grateful for what you want in your life as though you have received it in the future." So whatever you want in your future, make as if you have received it in the now. So it's about just living in a state of gratitude.

SAMIA: Thank you again, Dr. Rani…

DR. RANI: Thank you so much.

SAMIA: That was just wonderful. Yeah.

DR. RANI: It's been such a lovely time together with your audience and you.

And I'm very grateful, thankful for this moment that we are able to be together with everybody. And, yes, I wish you the very best, you and your audience, Samia. And thank you for this invitation again.

SAMIA: Thank you, Dr. Rani. And for those of you who are listening or watching, my last reminder as usual, is to please make sure you check the show notes because we will be dropping Dr. Rani's links in there so you can connect with her and learn even more and get some help and support and experience some more amazing gratitude and love in your life. And until we connect next time, I wish you lots and lots of peace and joy... :)