SAMIA: Hello, Salaam, Shalom, Namaste, Sat Sri Akal, Aloha, Holah, Ciao, Bonjour, Buna, and Privet! It's really, really good to be with you again. And you know what, we have a very, very cool guest today, so I'm sure you will also be very happy to have joined us... And our guest today is Wilma David. Wilma is an award-winning author, affiliate of Academy of Wellness, an Alternative Healing Practitioner and Life Coach. I'm so excited to have you with us Wilma, welcome... 

WILMA: Hi, Samia... And you said, "Holah" and all this beautiful welcoming, and in our language, in the Filipino language says, "Mabuhay, Mabuhay..." So it's welcoming life. So thank you so much for inviting me. And you never forget. Now it's coming to finish on. So thank you. Thank you so much... 

SAMIA: Yes. So good to have you with us. And Wilma, will you please tell us more about who you are and what you do?

WILMA: Yes, I'm Wilma, David, and I am a Alternative Healing Practitioner.... But previously my background is I'm a chemical engineer. Then along my life journey and spiritual path and ascension, so I fully transitioned to becoming a holistic healing practitioner. I use a lot of different customized modality. And I'm very much enthusiastic… this campaign of educating people, like I mentioned to you, about, you know, the technology nowadays is very open, you know, people can just, I told you self medicate. So it's the one thing that I wanted to share in your platform of, you know, the pros and cons of, you know, self-medication…

SAMIA: Yes. Oh, that is a very, very important topic when it comes to how we manage our wellness. 

WILMA: Absolutely... 

SAMIA: So tell me more... Yeah, what is one of the big problems that you see in the context of people engaging in self-medication?

WILMA: Because there's a huge advantage right now that people can just google anything, and the search engine is very much open to any age group, you know, even like a very young kid can Google something… and the exchange of online buying, and all these things are very open. Even over the counter, or even in places like pharmacies or convenience stores, are easy access right now for people to just buy anything, for whatever condition that they are going to in their physical body, or emotional and mental aspect of it, right...

And I want to increase the awareness, especially through your platform, not to resort into self medicating, especially just buying over-the-counter medications for any kind of pain, you know… Pain is a very much very big topic, especially physical pain, or emotional pain, or whatever it is... And then now people can just order anything pretty much online, you know, as medication to substitute or to alleviate the pain. But people are not really looking, what is the source or the truth of the pain, right. So, and now I'm noticing that people are more in sort of, like, danger of harming their body because… the perhaps whatever they're buying online is not really the right or appropriate cure for the physical body. You know, because sometimes people just get used to buying say pain medication in the store… nothing... I'm nothing against with the pharmaceuticals… but because sometimes they overdose themselves, and then the tendency is for some organs of the body, you know, to be more harmful than beneficial. So now I'm really campaigning more of this awareness, especially to young adults and or people who can buy online or can just easily access, that instead of let's say going to buy something online for pain, maybe refocus it... Let's say into silence in order to meditation or just walking and breathing, you know, more holistic approach, rather than right away… you know, I… people sometimes, I hear that they are very much into heartburn or anti acids… that they get into this the store, in the gasoline station, because they are stressed, you know... but they are not really addressing the cause of distress. Right. 

SAMIA: Yeah. 

WILMA: So, it's more of a temporary solution, rather than looking at the truth of what's really going on with them.

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SAMIA: Yes, you know, you just made me think of a number of cases in my family, and even myself… One of the first cases that popped up in my mind was actually my grandmother. She's passed away now. But when she was alive… well... you know, she went through a lot in her life, of course. And after my grandfather passed away, she survived him by many years. But after he passed away, you know, her mental health deteriorated, her physical health deteriorated... She was never quite the same person again after losing, losing my grandfather. And one habit that she got into, that turned out to be really harmful for her, was that she started self-medicating. She was just taking… like, anytime she would feel even a little bit of physical pain she was like, “I cannot bear it”. And she would take a painkiller, and usually it was something like Tylenol. So I mean, theoretically, Tylenol is supposed to be safe. And she was taking the over-the-counter level, you know, so it wasn't even necessarily a huge dosage. But we found out that after her years and years of, you know, just taking Tylenol every time she felt a little bit of pain, it actually started to impact her body and her health in all kinds of ways. It actually started to affect her stomach and her ability to digest food and things like that... So that's like one example that immediately popped up in my mind. And then the other example that I'll share is my own… I actually have an issue where I have episodes, like, bursitis flaming… it's like, my hip joint flames up... And actually, I went to the doctor. I didn't even try to self-medicate. I went to the doctor, the doctor told me, "Okay, Samia, when you have this inflammation occur, you have to take this medication so you can bring down the inflammation. And more importantly, you have to rest, you have to rest your hip…

WILMA: Yes, exactly... 

SAMIA: ..you can't be walking, you can't even sit because even when you're sitting your hip is being actively used." And so basically I have to lie down a lot... 

WILMA: Yes...SAMIA: And the problem that I found in this was like, was that… as long as I could feel the pain in my hip... I was like very inclined to lie down because the moment I moved… especially the first time I had this flare up, it was like, I didn't realize what was happening. And I waited, I waited. I wouldn't go to the doctor. I was like, "Oh, it’ll just get better on its own"... until it got so bad, I could not move without hurting... And so then I went to the doctor and the doctors said, okay, you start doing this.... Then once I started taking the medication, actually, the pain seemed to disappear. And so then I was like, "Oh, great. I'm feeling better." So I didn’t listen to the second part of the doctor's advice... 

WILMA: The rest part…

SAMIA: And I didn’t rest. Yes. And the problem was that the medication that he gave me, it was some kind of anti-inflammatory, but it was also a pain killer. And so my body thought, like, my brain tricked me and/or my brain got tricked into thinking the pain was gone... 

WILMA: Yes, yes, yes…

SAMIA: And so I started moving around, like, I would without pain. And so actually, in some ways, the lesson that I learned from that was that there's a reason why our body has us feel the pain. And when we use these kinds of medications, and we fool our body into thinking, or our minds or whatever, into thinking, Oh, the pain is gone, because I took this medication…

WILMA: Yeah... 

SAMIA: …you haven't addressed the core, underlying issue... 

WILMA: Like a placebo effect…

SAMIA: Yes. It's like, it's like… you're doing more harm, you're actually going to take longer to heal whatever the issue is…

WILMA: Yeah, absolutely. Because we have to realize that every organ of our body has divine intelligence, you know… like, the heart knows what to do, you know, it knows the heartbeat. The liver knows what to do... The lungs knows what to do. But because we somehow miss construct.. miss construct the ability or the natural ability of our body to naturally heal, then we mask it, you know. And the more... Because I work as a chemical engineer in the pharmaceutical industry, and that awareness... I don't... I hybrid the good things in science and combine it with quantum and metaphysical, right... So what I have noticed is… because, obviously, whenever you just pop in an easy dose of capsule or a, you know… for a right reason, yes, if it's properly diagnose, so nothing wrong with that, right… But people are just not even diagnosed, they just assume that, "Oh, okay, I have this hyperacidity, that I need to take some anti-acids”. But the true issue is just stress... Let's say you're stressed because of some work tensions or some time management issues, right. So now, like you said, you forgot to rest… You know, but the recipe at all, instruct body to completely pause, pause your brain because it's overacting, right. So, and now it delays the healing… And most people now get in the habit of wanting to take more whenever they feel something, okay... Rather than taking it as a sign that you really have.. your body's telling, you know what, it's time for you to just rejuvenate and slow down, all right... Or route and reroute your pattern of work because it's too toxic. Maybe you have to fast with people who are toxic. So, and because everything is about energy and there is this prana that is moving our blood circulation. And most of the time it gets stagnant because people even forget how to breathe. You know, they just used to, okay, the routine of waking up in the morning, rushing, rushing, rushing… and they get a headache into the traffic and go into the work and everything like that. So, they even breadth in the recirculated air say in the car, right. 

SAMIA: Yeah. 

WILMA: So, but sometimes the oxygen level can spike up when you just go there maybe a minute of breathing, you know... Breathing outside the air and taking some fresh air, right. So, and now especially, you know, just the search engine is very open, and people even buy that there is no age filter, there is no age filter… they can buy in any kind of like, platform that they sell anything online, then it can be delivered in your home. So, and when people start at an early age buying like that, the danger is the longevity of their life is lessening, you know… because I have seen an interview… a lot of, for example, like university students or high school students go in for an exam, right…. 

SAMIA: Yeah. 

WILMA: …So and they like to, for example, review in the exam, like cramming, you know, like late before the exam… that's the only time they will review, right. And then one of a friend… a neighbor of mine I saw and I said, what is that on your table? Oh, she says, like, they are caffeine pills, you know… caffeine pills that they bought online. So aside from the coffee that they're drinking, and aside from the, for example, any caffeine drinks that they are drinking, they even buy caffeine pills online, which is obviously non-controllable. So now you spike up with caffeine, you know, and then tendency after that, they cannot sleep... You know, they said, "Okay, I have a sleeping problem. I have this insomnia, I couldn't sleep..." But it's their action, you know. So more and more… so, I want to educate people, especially like the proper discipline… Because imagine like buying so much of a caffeine pills, right. So what will happen? Let's say if you're doing that at the age of 22 or 20... 20 years from now, what will happen to your liver? You know, what will happen to your other systems of your body, right? So, and I'm really grateful that this platform hopefully can reach a lot of audience, for them to open up the clarity that there's natural way of releasing all this kind of mental and emotional stress, you know, instead of really getting addicted into something that later on has consequences.

SAMIA: Yes... You know, you just made me think about… I was recently watching a documentary... It's actually based on a book that came out and I read the book several years ago. And the book itself is written based on extensive research. It's called the Blue Zones. And basically, the author, and a team of people I suppose... 

WILMA: Actually that is on Netflix right now…

SAMIA: Yes, that's right, that's right…

WILMA: I just watched it as well... 

SAMIA: Yeah. I loved reading the book so much and I really enjoyed the documentary too. And for those of our audience who are listening, if you don't know about the blue zone, these are basically areas on the, in the world, there are five... 

WILMA: Countries. 

SAMIA: Yes, not even whole countries… they're, like, actually regions within countries where people are living the longest and most healthiest lives. So it's not just that they're living long. The people in these regions are, like, reaching age 100 and higher, at the highest levels. But they're not just old. They're actually healthy… they're active, you know, their mental health is good, their physical health is good... And so the person, the researcher, he went around, and, you know, he tried to figure out what is it that makes these people able to live so long and healthy. And one of the most important findings, and insights of his study/research, I think, are that… their health and wellness has so much to do with their lifestyle…

WILMA: Absolutely…

SAMIA: The kind of social life they have… that so important… like, social support, social engagement… but also just the kind of everyday lifestyle that they have in terms of how much they move, how they move, the kind of work that they do... You know, all of these things impact our health. 

WILMA: Absolutely…

SAMIA: And unfortunately, we are, you know… like, I know, for me, I keep having to really watch myself. And every so often I'll forget, or prioritize other things than my health and wellness and slip into bad patterns… But it's like, you know, what happens is that, like, I know, for example, I'm living in Los Angeles, and it’s the modern, 21st-century city. And there's a certain culture and a certain pace life over here. And it's so not... the dominant culture here is not designed for you to be able to live in this most healthy kind of ways... It doesn't support… like, you want to get all the sleep that your body needs, you want to eat healthy, you don't want to be, you know, doing bad work that makes you feel stressed out… But it's like the way the dominant culture is set up.. making those choices can feel so hard, because the dominant culture is pushing you towards high-stress jobs, and to staying up late working and so forth, you know, things like that... So, what are some solutions that you teach your clients? 

WILMA: Number one is obviously, mindfulness and awareness, you know... So because when you are on your own, very conscious about it, and you are always mindful of your own energy… I always call it like, the original blueprint of our bodies, light body… you know, it's very light which means, it says, there is no distortions, right. But the moment we come out, let's say from our, in our mother's womb, people already are open to the… whatever sorts of environmental factors that contributed to a lot of tension, or like you said, the dynamic of where you live, you know. So, but when you are really mindful and conscious, you avoid certain patterns that is not healthy for you… then you make the choices, right. So now, but most people are even afraid to make the choices. To make a healthy lifestyle, you know, they follow the whole group of people. Let's say it's a status score or symbol that if I am going to a gym, I'm healthy... If you go to a gym… I have a gym membership, oh, I look like I am.. But not knowing you're only boosting your ego, but not really your overall well-being, right. But when you feel the lightness of the body without discomfort, you know that your mental and emotional state and also spiritual state is becoming healthy and healthier, right. So but now people are... I always tell them to mind the energy… because the energy is very moving in every areas of our life, either external or internal. So when you are really mindful, conscious and aware of what your body's telling you, when there's heaviness, right away… where is this coming from? Is this because, like, I have overload myself? Or is there any other negative energies coming from outside of me? So now you're aware, and then you stay back, you pause… you know what, I love myself, I don't deserve this, you know… So and the key I always emphasize is loving yourself… you know, when you are loving yourself… you are more conscious not to be like a liter of all these toxic garbage, you know... I'm not just talking physical garbage but whatever it is around you, don't absorb it, you know. Don't absorb… Or reject other people's, whatever negativity or attention, or whatever people… because you have the ability to control, not other people, but your reaction towards your own response mechanism, right. So, in that question, obviously, it's mindfulness and awareness is very important…

SAMIA: Yes, that is such a good point... Because if you're not even aware of what the problem is, or how it's impacting you... Like, I know, I have had this challenge for a long time in my life… I’m getting better at it now... but I had terrible awareness of, especially like my own body. I was very, in some ways, I was very aware of, like, my thoughts and what I was thinking, but beyond that, I really struggled with awareness. I... whatever thoughts I had, I didn't realize or understand how they were making me feel. I didn't understand the connection there. And then feeling… both at the level of my mental emotional state, but also, then I had… a lot of struggle being aware of what was going on in my body... and what I was feeling in my body. So like, I would go to the doctor, and my doctor would ask me questions, and I'd be like, "I don't know. I don't know..." Like, I remember one time I went, and I had a issue... Like, I actually developed a issue with like having migraines when I was still a teenager. And my doctor started asking me questions about what kind of pain I had when I had a headache. And even though I had migraines and they were so intense and were so bad I would be incapacitated when I had migraines, I still could not describe to the doctor what I felt when I went to see him... And I was like, I just know I have a headache and I… it's really bad. And I struggled to express anything beyond that. So I was like really challenged in that way. And when you cannot even express yourself, when you are not even aware yourself of what you're feeling and why you're feeling it, even other people will struggle to help you. It's very challenging…

WILMA: Yeah. So, going through, what you've been through, actually, it starts with the thought… you mentioned about the thought, right. Then you reach a point of an oversaturation of a thought. And what you explain in your experience, the thought was converted into an emotion, then it converted to a feeling, and then your body reacted to it. So that process, you have to evaluate what was the thought, you know. And most people their thought is about fear... You know, about procrastination, about the negativity of that comes into their mind because of many aspects of doubt, or self-criticism. So now it has been accumulated. And you said, like, you don't even explain to the doctor… that means you got blocked, you know... So is there's already a thick dirt of this vibration that is in your aura. What I always do my clients when I cleanse their aura… I see like, it's like a, you know, like a filter, and the filter has too much dust... Every single hole of the filter is already… has the debrie and even like a hole or a rip or a tear, you know. And when that happens, you can imagine a filter in an air condition in the car, you know, it starts to malfunction, right... So now, that's when I help my clients recalibrate their thoughts, you know, recalibrate their pattern of thinking… then they're starting to open up the vessels and even the cellular level of the client. Because when you recalibrate your brain, your DNA starts to follow, right. And when you just simply start with some good affirmations, when you wake up in the morning, your body dictates right away. But I just noticed that when I interviewed some other people, the moment they get up, they say, "I'm tired".... they’re just waking up, they always say, “I don't have energy”, right. You know, so right away from the moment that you get up from the bed, and, “I'm lazy to go to work”, you know. So the response mechanism of that thought is right away getting into the nerves and the atoms and molecules of the body, then you start to be sluggish, right. So imagine, imagine a cycle of that, for example, for five years, or even more than that, right. So now, even if you take how much depression pills, or you take so much gym work, but still, you are in the same pattern every single day, then what do you expect, right? So when your awareness is blocked, that's where it is important, you need to seek some help, you know. And this way, when a person, the right person or practitioner that you go to, you are not putting yourself in danger of self-medicating... You know, because there are a lot of high dose milligrams of pain medication out there, either it could be a muscle pain, it could be some stomach cramp pain, or menstrual pain, whatever pain that they have... But they are or they will just realize people have experience of tumor, or like, yeah, a cist or whatever kind of... Because the body has been full of death- dust and debris. And there's no more room to go in your energetic field. So now starting to have a clot or a tumor or a cist or a lump... So this is very important, as I said, and I really am positively wanting to reach a lot of platform audience through this call, really, to be super, super, super kind to your body… not just your body, but your overall well being because the moment you... the moment you practice kindfulness to yourself, imagine how much the permutation of extending kindfulness to others, you know.

SAMIA: Yeah.

WILMA: So that's a ripple effect instead of having a placebo effect of pain, pain, pain, you know... instead of joy, joy, joy, joy, happiness, happiness, happiness…

SAMIA: Yeah. That is such a great point…. This is such a great point... when you're not feeling well yourself, you're not doing well yourself, it's also difficult for you to be good to other people, you know…

WILMA: Yeah. The vibration…

SAMIA: Yes, yes. And, you know, I see this a lot, where... I know, like, for example, some of the people that I know in my life that, you know, I saw changes in them, you know, where I knew them to be some of the most kind and gentle people… but then they went through some kind of struggle, and they were not doing so well themselves, and suddenly their energy shifted, but their behavior also shifted with other people. And so then when you are, you know… and they become more irritable for example with other people, they become more judgmental of other people, judging them more harshly... And I was just, you know, now I have a better understanding of why that is. But in those days, like, the first time I remember experiencing this kind of change in somebody, I found it very... Like, I didn't understand it. So for me, it was like, shocking to experience this change in their behavior. And like, in my case, I was like… I had not very good mental health myself at that time. So I was like, "No, I cannot deal with this." And I just pulled away from that you know... I realized that after I helped myself, and I'm feeling better, and I'm more in control of my wellness, then not only am I able to think back, and have more compassion and empathy for what they were going through, and try and help them now... And so I realized about… "Oh, this is true for me too. I wasn’t feeling so good so then it actually compromised my ability to…

WILMA: …correct…

SAMIA: …help other people also.

WILMA: Yes. Yeah. Which brings me to a key point that you mentioned, is like, Never compromise yourself, you know... So now like you like you realize yourself, when you compromise yourself, you shut off many, not just the vital organs but many of your aspects of manifestation, right... So whether it's relationship or career or work or whatever it is, you shut it off because you don't see the clarity of it, right. So…

SAMIA: Yeah. 

WILMA: …that level of experience that you pass, you know, brings you the light. So where you are right now, being a conduit of positivity to other people because you passed that... you passed that experience. So the same thing that you wanted to... you are passionate to do this kind of video or interviews because you know the benefit of be in the dark and the lightness, you know…

SAMIA: Yeah. 

WILMA: And the more that you experience that lightness, the more that we are so much passionate... You know why don't you want to go into this zone, rather than being in the zone of darkness, and negativity, and frustration, right... And as I said, our elemental body is very sensitive, because it's very intelligent, you know. 

SAMIA: Yeah. 

WILMA: …the Divine intelligence of our creation, from these from, from The Source... It's really Divine… but because right now, everything is artificial, you know. They wanted to mask everything and then in injection here and there or whatever it is, like, even like a lot of people put so much things on their face that it altered their natural beauty, you know. Because people are masking even like a single speck of a mole, you know. They would put so much, for example, a concealer or a foundation… but that is the one that is unique to you, you know, that's very unique to you… And now, the state of comparison and comparing yourself to others… then it creates an insecurity, and then people get to be addicted into some form of anything... It could be addiction to buying so much cosmetics or addiction to buying so much... You know, I've seen a lot of apps right now. There's a lot of apps online, you know, that it's created this to really make you feel beautiful in the social media, right. But then, if they see that they don't have a like, you know, there's no popularity... 

SAMIA: Yeah.

WILMA: …they get depressed. So when they get depressed, they will buy something out there to mask the depression, all right... 

SAMIA: Right.

WILMA: So, and especially now, I've seen that there is a lot of forms that they buy in the form of gummy bears, you know, like, it's just easy to swallow or to take and ingest... And really, be very, very careful with that, you know. Especially, if you have young children or something… Or even so I would also emphasize that there are adults, very much adults, that they are sometimes… they are in their prescription medications that are highly narcotic, you know… and perhaps they might not even know the danger of it, and then somebody of a young kid sometimes... sometimes you see from the bottle, it says, “for pain medication”, right. So somebody in the household may have seen it, oh, it's for pain medication, and then suddenly could just open it and then pop it on their own without knowing if it's that the right amount of dosage for their age or for their body, right…

SAMIA: Yeah. 

WILMA: So, even adults should play a role of being so mindful and aware to protect their loved ones, right.

SAMIA: Yes... That is such a great point. Thank you so much for that, Wilma. I really appreciate your sharing... 

WILMA: Thank you as well…

SAMIA: ..that experience and wisdom... 

WILMA: Yes, yes... And I'm really grateful, and hopeful that your platform will educate this awareness... It doesn't matter what season because this is a very critical stage. Young and adults are, as I said, as many… even like they call it supplement, or not natural health products that are claiming to be natural... But you really don't know what is behind that. But because sometimes even like the organic right now, they say it's organic but too much marketing out there, you know, and you no longer know if it's organic or not. So…

SAMIA: Yeah.

WILMA: … I have some intellectual research and as I said, go back to basics... Basics: the simple water, you know, sunlight or raw vegetables that you plant and you pick up from the trees, you know. And I'm campaigning this and you as well, and for the highest is good... I'm really grateful for the opportunity to be here in your platform. 

SAMIA: Thank you so much, Wilma.

WILMA: Thank you so much, Samia... 

SAMIA: Yes, I will just remind our audience as we wrap up, to make sure you check the show notes, because we will be adding Wilma's links in there, so you can learn more from her. You know, it's not always so easy on your own to figure these things out… even the idea of just going back to the simple basics, how do you do that? And do that in a way that's fun and easy? It's not so easy to figure it out on your own, but with someone like Wilma on your side, it's gonna become more fun and easy... 

WILMA: Absolutely…

SAMIA: So please, check the show or notes... Yes, and thank you again, Wilma... 

WILMA: Thank you again and namaste... 

SAMIA: I appreciate you for joining us... Namaste... Until we connect next time, I wish you lots and lots of peace and joy... :)

WILMA: And all the blessings to you and all the people who will be listening to the recording. Much love to everybody... Thank you, Samia. Okay, bye, bye... :)